Alright, let's try to keep this short and not just endless rant/circular Roxie logic mode.
I think the root of Roxie's bitterness towards Ramona in the present-day is... obviously there's a lot of anger and resentment over how the relationship ended and how she sort of feels used and betrayed and like she never really mattered (in spite of the fact that she and Ramona very clearly are on better terms than any of the other exes in canon). But the big sticking point is Scott Pilgrim, so the complete absence of him has sort of mellowed things out a lot because if it's just Ramona then Roxie can't... really stay deeply furious at her most of the time in spite of everything. As long as they avoid talking about the breakup or Scott or Gideon, it's sort of like college again except without the making out. In the case of the first two it tends to bring out the worst in Roxie because then the bitterness becomes more than just Roxie being an eternal pessimist who takes everything too seriously. Gideon is just... he's the only other member of the League that matters in regards to how Roxie and Ramona would interact (though she thinks what happened with the twins was bullshit and their motives to join the League are more valid than anyone else but her) and mostly it's just that that makes it much more awkward.
So ultimately as long as Scott Pilgrim isn't around, things will probably either remain in a general state of okay or even get better, possibly. It depends, because Roxie honestly doesn't even know what she wants when it's just about her and Ramona. If/when he does show up, though, it goes straight back to "augh that fucking LOSER I'm going to kill him so dead" and that sort of puts a damper on the road to an okay place things seem to be on right now.
Same question back to you for Ramona's perspective :|b
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Date: 2010-10-03 05:44 am (UTC)I think the root of Roxie's bitterness towards Ramona in the present-day is... obviously there's a lot of anger and resentment over how the relationship ended and how she sort of feels used and betrayed and like she never really mattered (in spite of the fact that she and Ramona very clearly are on better terms than any of the other exes in canon). But the big sticking point is Scott Pilgrim, so the complete absence of him has sort of mellowed things out a lot because if it's just Ramona then Roxie can't... really stay deeply furious at her most of the time in spite of everything. As long as they avoid talking about the breakup or Scott or Gideon, it's sort of like college again except without the making out. In the case of the first two it tends to bring out the worst in Roxie because then the bitterness becomes more than just Roxie being an eternal pessimist who takes everything too seriously. Gideon is just... he's the only other member of the League that matters in regards to how Roxie and Ramona would interact (though she thinks what happened with the twins was bullshit and their motives to join the League are more valid than anyone else but her) and mostly it's just that that makes it much more awkward.
So ultimately as long as Scott Pilgrim isn't around, things will probably either remain in a general state of okay or even get better, possibly. It depends, because Roxie honestly doesn't even know what she wants when it's just about her and Ramona. If/when he does show up, though, it goes straight back to "augh that fucking LOSER I'm going to kill him so dead" and that sort of puts a damper on the road to an okay place things seem to be on right now.
Same question back to you for Ramona's perspective :|b